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Old 07-26-2010, 12:08 PM   #1
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Default Anti E for a 10 week prop and masterone cycle

Been outta the game for about five years and was wondering if any thoughts have changed on what type of anti estrogens to use for this type of cycle. I have used arimidex(ldex) in the past with pretty good sucess. I was wondering what people are using now or find works the best.

I want something that is fairly easy on lipid profiles since mine are slightly out of wack naturally but is also effective at combating estrogen since I am sensitive to it. I have had 2 gyno removals...one on each pec.

Also wondering what the going PCT therapy is for a cycle like this. Is everone still using the standard Pct of clomid and tamoxifen or what?

I will be running 10 weeks of test prop and masterone at 500mg a week of each. Any help would be greatly appreciated. And it's nice to see IFL back up and running!!!!
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Old 07-26-2010, 01:52 PM   #2
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first of all :) thanks for posting a question lol

personally i stick to nolva just cos i hate clomid for pct, but there are lots of arguments around the web about the benefits of both or each other.

For the gyno, arimidex still effective and the one to use, i would if you are sensitive to it keep nolva on hand, there is also aromasin (Exemestane) or letrozole to consider though both good at the same thing.
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Old 07-26-2010, 04:07 PM   #3
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Thanks for the response. How is aromasin on lipid levels? I know letro works well but really messes up you profile. Also I hear that masterone helps with estrogen also. My only concern is if it is enough to counteract the prop and if I should just have an anti e on hand just in case?
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i honestly dont know the answer to that but here is what i could dig up

sounds like it is the best for the lipid levels from the reads i could find this was the best, found on meso rx

both arimidex/ldex/anastrozole and femara/letrozole hurt your cholesterol. the way these 2 anti e's work is they inhibit the aromatase enzyme. by inhibiting the enzyme which converts testosterone to estrogen, you reduce or even come close to eliminating estrogen production. we need some estrogen to be healthy. the major drawback to this is without estrogen, your lipid profile gets ****ed.

exemestane works differently. it does not stop the body from producing estrogen. rather, it makes it so the estrogen is unable to bind to receptors by deactivating the binding enzyme. if the estrogen cannot bind, you simply will not get bloated or get gyno. the estrogen is crippled due to exemestane. however, since the estrogen is still floating around, it will not negatively affect your lipid/cholesterol profile.

anastrozole doesnt cause a rebound effect, and neither does exemestane, but letrozole does. this means after you stop the letrozole, your estrogen rebounds and goes pretty high for a while, eventually it normalizes. you can avoid this by tapering your letro dose down before stopping it, but that is a pain in the ass. higher than normal can mess many things up post cycle when you stop. since the hpta has a feedback loop is primarily controlled by estrogen, high estrogen will tell your hpta to produce less testosterone, because it thinks the high estrogen is caused by too much testosterone. this is fact. now post cycle, dont we want to raise our test levels, not lower them? of course! so rebounds are bad. if you use letro taper the dose off to zero over a couple weeks.
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Thanks for the response. Trying to decide which liquid research company to go through for my rat. Got 3 in mind and wanted a no BS assesment of the places that are still quality. Not sure if I can list them so please let me know if that's ok or I can go to PM
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i dont mind, not sure you will get any answers though apart from me and i dont use research chems, some of the other guys may reply but you might have to wait a little while, can you post them not as links, just the name, thats cool
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Ohh and I will never touch any of lions stuff every again. Rarely worked and got screwed 2 many times
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OJ is spot on as far as his assesment goes - as to the places, dont know the first, chemone has been around a long time and last one I have heard of but dont know.
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