Show Prep For 2008...need Professinal View On This

xplosivefibres

This is my entire cutting cycle ill be using for my show this march, jus want to get a range of views on it!





Weeks 1-6:- 500mg Test ethanate each week
Weeks 1-6:- 50mg Propinate every 3 days
Works about 650mg of test each week)
TEST STOPED AT 4 WEEKS OUT

Weeks 1-10:- Mastaplex 400mg every week (contains both ethanate and propinate versions of masterone
Weeks 1-10:- Tri trenabol 300mg per week
Weeks 6-10:- Tren acetate 75mg each day
(works out about 600mg of tren each week )

Weeks 8-10:- 50mg stanazol inject
Weeks 6-10:- 30mg Halotestex Every day

Weeks 1-6:- 8I.U HGH 6 on /1 off ( have been running gorwth for 3 months previous at 5 I.U 6 on/ 1 off)

*First show is in the middle of week 10 and second is at the end of week 10, 1 day apart!

THERMOS
CLEN- going to run it with "neoclaytin" an alergy drug like benedryl, comes in 5 mg tablets. will take 2 neoclarytin a day on my third week of clen. keep receptors fresh. running clen for 4 weeks at a time at highest dose i can stand
ECA- will use it when im off clen, three- four servings a day e.t.c
T4/T3- been running it with my growth previious to cutting cycle for about 2 months at 200mg each day. Goin to step it up to 300-400mcg until i stat my T3s 5 weeks up, ill tapper my T3s up to 100mcg from 25mcg and then taper down during the last weeks of prep

Ancillaries:-
cabaser at 0.25 mg every 3-4 days to combat progestin
debating on tamoxifan or arimidex!
HCG weeks 1-6 every 4th day at 500 I.Us to keep balls big
Liver 52's double strength 4 a day
3 g vitamin c a day
2 multi vits AM/PM



Questions:-
1. 600mg tren each week, too much?
2. Should i continue to run propinate up to 2 weeks out instead of stoppin all test a month out, will the extra tiny bit of prop test benifit me that much?
3.Should i be running arimidex with the cabser or will novla do the trick, i may be wrong but im led to beleive that novla increase sensitvity to prolactin?
4. Am i running my gear to close to the show, should i stop it a week out to prevent any brusiess/water retention around injection sites?
5. IGF during show prep, YES OR NO???
6. Should i stop my T3s the week before the show, i hear it affects loading up e.t.c

bigcut77

Not sure bro. To complex for my exp. I'll give it a bumb. Hopefully Pheedno or some of the guys who compete can give you some advice/critique

Whitey

I'll take a shot at a couple of these, and leave the rest.

Questions:-
1. 600mg tren each week, too much?

Depends on what you've taken up to this point. If your body has adjusted to high androgen levels, no. If not, you could use less. 600mg will bring some sides with it in most guys. 400 is a more primary effect to side effect-friendly dose.

3.Should i be running arimidex with the cabser or will novla do the trick, i may be wrong but im led to beleive that novla increase sensitvity to prolactin?

Cabergoline controls prolactin, not progesterone. Do you have a prolactin problem, or a progesterone problem. GH/IGF can present a prolactin problem. There are few true progesterone antagonists. One is mifepristone (RU-486). Another is winstrol or masteron (though this is not fully proven in research). I'd lean on the DHT-based compounds for progesterone control. Estrogen is best addressed through Aromasin, if necessary, because it's a steroidal, irreversible, suicide-inhibitor. Good stuff.

xplosivefibres

ill have been running 300mg previous so i may spread the doses out more instead of wapping the whole 600mg in those last few weeks!


yeah think i do have a prolactin problem (nipples producing a clear fluid) will e on winstrol and masteron so hopefully they will work as progesterone control

Whitey

I love winny/masteron for estrogen and progesterone control. Better to spend money there than on anti-e's - it's like getting an anabolic thrown in for free.

On the Tren dose, I like to keep something in the back pocket in case I need it. The body will adjust to your dose, whatever you throw at it, given the time. If a certain dose is effective, I stick with it, then bump it up as the body adjusts to it. The body uses cortisol, SHBG, and estrogens to bring you back down to earth. Your goal is to stay a few steps ahead at all times. That's my philosophy on it. And that's why the answer to "Is XXX too high a dose?" is "That depends."

Keep up the good work, and good luck at your comp.

xplosivefibres

cheers bud thank you!

xplosivefibres

bump

Pheedno

1. I dont believe you'll need that much tren, at least initially. I'd start out with 100mgEOD(350 per week) and ramp up over the course.
2. I would definately continue the prop until the beginingof week 9. The benefit of the increase in androgen ratio will help
3. I wouldn't run caber at all. Get some letro and start off at 1mgED. Progesterone is an E2 agonist so type II aromatase inhibitors will help, and the letro will do wonders, especially in the latter stages with drying out. By the start of week 9, you should have your dose ramped to 2.5mg
4. No, you'll be fine with running oils up to the start of week 9, as long as the ester is short, such with your tren ace and test prop. I would start your winny at week 5 at 50mg EOD and ramp to 50mgED by week 8. I'd start the halo at 20mg 2wks out, and ramp to 40mg one week out. Both of these, you can carry through the show ith you. The halo will do good things. I would carry the growth untill 10 days out
5. I dont see a need for the IGF
6. No, continue the t3. You might have a slight increase in the propensity to flatten out after loading, but when it comes to diuretics. If you flatten from them, you just need to eat more. Carbs for filling, triglycerides for vascularity. I would alter your dosing though. I would not up the t3/t4. On the t3, cycle your dosing. Start off with a 25/25/50 schedule for 3wks. Switch to 25/50/50 from wk 3-5, then switch to 25/50/75/100/25/50, etc. I found this did wonders at regenerating efficacy during my prep.


I'd pick up some b6 and run 300mg alongside 1500mg of Vitc 2x a day. This will help, not only with prolactin if it becomes a problem, but will also help in drying you out.
2. Get some glycerin from the drug store(usually with diabetics stuff). Pick up some wild raspberry tea and at 5wks out start having 2 cups a day with a teaspoon of glycerin in it. It will also help in drying out over time
3. Start soaking in epsom salt baths 2wks out. Not only will it help with drying, but it's extremely theraputic to the body while your giving it such a beat down
4. Asparagus- Natural diuretic. Eat it and pick some extract tabs up. Might be handy later.

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Whitey

I enjoyed reading that. Pheedno is a very sharp guy and accomplished competitor. Definitely a great resource.

xplosivefibres

thanks soo much mate, appreciate tht!

Q how long do you think i should be running my t3 for in total, should i be running my T4 with my T3 or stopping one and starting the other?
Q What will the glycerin do for me?
Q How much epsom salts in the bath?

think ill go with your chocie on the letro although im worried it will be a bit harsh.

Whitey

xplosive-
Good thread here on controlling progesterone, if you're interested: http://www.ukiron.net/showthread.php?t=4352

xplosivefibres

thanks bud

waleedy2k

Do u run 300milligrams or 300micrograms of b6 to dry u out?