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Carb cycling
So I was thinking about trying out a carb cycling diet and was thinking of just revolving the high carbs on workout days which is mon/wed/fri.
But yea I am trying to get lean, I am one of those body types where I am weak and skinny yet have a gut, like a skinny fat man.So if I start I was thinking this. Cals around 2800. My stats are 6 foot 207 lb's and BF is about 19 according to the calipers. Training days Carbs- 350, Protein -300, Fat-20 on training days , Off days Protein 350 ,Carb-0 and fat -50? How's that look to you guys?
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07-30-2007, 02:54 PM
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Also I box in between the half hour gap where it is a lot of HIIT cardio where you go 2 minutes hard 30 seconds rest. I will be taking in like 15 grams of BCAA's with my PWO shake. I make it an 80 gram carb shake and a 60 protein shake then just sip half of it in between lifting and boxing. I will just add the BCAA's to the post lifting -pre boxing shake.
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07-30-2007, 05:05 PM
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I saw update pics of you and what you have been doing so far works, you look alot better and stronger keep doing what you have been doing cuz it has worked good so far if you want to lean up do more cardio
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07-30-2007, 05:11 PM
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true but then again how do you know what works best for you if you never try it?
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07-30-2007, 05:49 PM
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i think your going to want some more fats in your diet to keep you full. it gets really tiresome to just eat meat all day long. something i do is not eliminate my carbs completely but have little amounts throughout the day. like if i have a chicken sandwich ill take 1 piece of bread and tear it in half. carbs are still low at the end of the day but i dont get super groggy.
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07-30-2007, 05:51 PM
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I do real low carb now , I do fine on it to be honest.
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07-30-2007, 06:22 PM
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go for it then and try it out
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07-31-2007, 01:52 AM
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07-31-2007, 02:19 AM
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07-31-2007, 07:49 PM
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Great article. I'm gonna give this a shot. I always wanted to try carb cycling but haven't found much material on it (not that I looked that hard). Anyone else read it? I understand what the author is saying regarding macro timing on workout days. But not sure what should be done on non-workout days. How would the carbs and fats be divided for each meal? Anyone have any ideas? |
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07-31-2007, 07:53 PM
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I am guessing in the AM to replace glycogen ? Not 100% sure, but good question.
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07-31-2007, 09:04 PM
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i read it also and have already started doing it today. i put together a diet plan. some of it is really nuts though. for my high carb day i have to eat 3.5cups of rice in my ppwo meal. also in my pwo shake i need a full cup of dextrose. ill stick with it and see how it goes for awhile, personally after just eating my pwo and ppwo meal i feel like i have a ton of energy and am super pumped. no more carbs for the rest of the day though 
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07-31-2007, 10:19 PM
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also i was looking into the pro/fat meals and it says to just have flax or fish oil. i did the math for my size and i need 43g of fat 3x a day. this comes out to 3 tbsp of oil per meal. does 9 tbsp of oil seem like a lot to anyone else? also i dont have fish oil but i do have olive oil, would that be an acceptable substitute?
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07-31-2007, 11:40 PM
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olive oils are omega 6 from what i understand. I do not see why not as long as you get some omega 3 in you .
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07-31-2007, 11:43 PM
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Believe it or not I actually first heard about it over at elite while reading over he logs. I know Justin Harris believes in the diet.
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08-01-2007, 12:14 AM
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we should start a log for all 3 of us to comment in since we are all going to try this carb cycling diet. that would prolly be very beneficial for many people.
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08-01-2007, 12:29 AM
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I'm down , I will even take som before and after pics and update them every month. But I never did a diet log...
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08-01-2007, 12:41 AM
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yea i just took some pictures but i look like crap so ill take some tommorow after i work out lol
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One thing I want to know is this guy says to eat carbs breakfast, PWO and PPWO. but in the layout of diets he also had the meal layout as pro/carb- pro/carb pro/fat-pro/fat- protein/carb drink and pro carb.
I am thinking just doing breakfast carbs, pwo and PPWO carbs like he first stated.
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08-01-2007, 09:21 AM
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u only want 3 of your meals to be pro/carb. breakfast, pwo, and ppwo. the rest are pro/fat
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Yea that's what I figured. I am throwing in fruit in the AM like apples or bananas since they are low GI.
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I'd love to keep a log but I don't think I'll be able to update it often enough to keep it current. Let me think about it. |
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For workout days. But I'm not sure how to split the macros on non-workout days. That's where I'm stuck. |
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What time of day do you workout? |
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08-01-2007, 12:47 PM
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4:30- till about 6.
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Non workout days you only have carbs in the morning |
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08-01-2007, 12:50 PM
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I don't know why he has a 4th pro/carb meal in the nightime workout plan. I would jus stick with 3 pro/carb meals, morning/PWO/PPWO. |
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08-01-2007, 12:51 PM
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That would mean on low carb days, which are non-workout days, all 200-300gms of carbs would be consumed for breakfast? That doesn't sound right. |
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Yea that's what I was saying man. He says to revolve carbs around breakfast, PWO and PPWO. Then he does that...
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To replace glycogen stores.
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08-01-2007, 12:55 PM
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I hear ya, but that would mean eating all of days carbs in that one meal. I don't think that's what the author intended. "2) When trying to lose fat: High(er) carb days = 330g protein, 344g carbs, 33g fat Moderate days = 330g protein, 275g carbs, 33g fat Low(er) carb days = 330g protein, 206g carbs, 33g fat" The lowest amount of carbs is 206gms, in this example. That would mean to consume all of them for breakfast. That doesn't add up. |
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08-01-2007, 01:23 PM
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Well what I am doing is, I only workout 3 days a week, so I wil have one moderate carb day which will be my cheat meal, then the rest the low carb days where I only have carbs in the AM. I will try to get it all from fruit if I can. Maybe like 3 bananas or apples and oats.
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08-01-2007, 01:28 PM
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But that's really a low carb diet, not a carb cycling diet. Below is how your supposed to cycle the carbs. "1) When trying to gain mass: High(er) carb days = 330g protein, 412g carbs, 121g fat Moderate days = 330g protein, 330g carbs, 121g fat Low(er) carb days = 33g protein, 247g carbs, 121g fat 2) When trying to lose fat: High(er) carb days = 330g protein, 344g carbs, 33g fat Moderate days = 330g protein, 275g carbs, 33g fat Low(er) carb days = 330g protein, 206g carbs, 33g fat" "If you train 3 times per week: • Select your two "priority workouts." On these days, you have a high(er) carbohydrate day. • The other workout day has a moderate carbohydrate intake level. • Among the four remaining days of the week, you have one more moderate carb day along with three low carb days." |
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