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Old 08-07-2006, 09:15 PM   #1
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Here is what I'm taking for my PCT:
20mg tamoxifine citrate
.25mg liquidex
zma at night
100mg DHEA pwo
2g CEE pwo
2g glutamine pwo
3g fenugreek at night
50mg proviron

ive also been taking hcg at 200iu 2x a week fro my entire cycle. i wanted to come up wiht something without clomid cause that stuff fucks me up. ill let you know how it goes
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Old 08-08-2006, 02:54 AM   #2
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Looks good to me. Keep us updated.
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Old 08-08-2006, 11:45 PM   #3
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start lower with the fenugreek and bump up each week

it looses potency progressivley and youll see better effects this way
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start lower with the fenugreek and bump up each week

it looses potency progressivley and youll see better effects this way

ok great. also, would you say 3g is as high as i want to go? or just keep upping it .5g ?
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Here is what I'm taking for my PCT:
20mg tamoxifine citrate
.25mg liquidex
zma at night
100mg DHEA pwo
2g CEE pwo
2g glutamine pwo
3g fenugreek at night
50mg proviron

ive also been taking hcg at 200iu 2x a week fro my entire cycle. i wanted to come up wiht something without clomid cause that stuff fucks me up. ill let you know how it goes


Only thing I am wondering about is the DHEA. Maybe Byran2 can fill me in on that. Isn't it a precursor to a precursor of test. I am assuming a conversion percentage in the single digits. Just wondering if this would work contrary to the rest of the pct. I am all ears and as always open to new ideas.
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ok great. also, would you say 3g is as high as i want to go? or just keep upping it .5g ?



I think you should start around 1.5-2 grams and then bump up .5 each week

3-4 weeks should be plenty and the effects drop off after 3-4 weeks anyway
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Only thing I am wondering about is the DHEA. Maybe Byran2 can fill me in on that. Isn't it a precursor to a precursor of test. I am assuming a conversion percentage in the single digits. Just wondering if this would work contrary to the rest of the pct. I am all ears and as always open to new ideas.




DHEA provides a precursor to test which is beneficial during time of very low output

androstenedione levels are also one unlooked hormone in the grand scheme of total male hormones and DHEA converts into this first benefiting lowered levels during PCT

and DHEA levels themselves play a big part in libido

Having a dose during PCT is 'supposed' to not work due to the possible inhibitory response that it could create. But everytime me or someone Ive reccomended it to say the exact opposite. It is most likely due to the very low conversion rate to test so it really isnt inhibitory

Give it a shot during one of your PCTs along with Fenugreek and youll really be able to notice a difference.
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DHEA provides a precursor to test which is beneficial during time of very low output

androstenedione levels are also one unlooked hormone in the grand scheme of total male hormones and DHEA converts into this first benefiting lowered levels during PCT

and DHEA levels themselves play a big part in libido

Having a dose during PCT is 'supposed' to not work due to the possible inhibitory response that it could create. But everytime me or someone Ive reccomended it to say the exact opposite. It is most likely due to the very low conversion rate to test so it really isnt inhibitory

Give it a shot during one of your PCTs along with Fenugreek and youll really be able to notice a difference.

thats why im trying it. ill let you know how it goes. ive been off cycle for 2 weeks now and ive been using my supplements for the past week and my sex drive is still through the roof.
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Keep us informed because I am trying to find the best PCT for my cycle which wont be ending for another 10 weeks, but you can never be too ready :) Im using 800iu/wk of HCG so I should be good there, but I know the tren shuts me down like a mofo. I will use nolvadex, but I also dont like the side effects of clomid; I get all depressed and shit.
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