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The Cutting Primer
By rambo @anabolicreview.com It’s about time we had a decent full length post on cutting… Let’s get a few things straight… 1. All of the insights I’m about to provide are not person-specific. What that means is that it is a general guideline, not a bible. 2. I truly do believe that bodybuilding is 80% diet. You can lift your ass off daily, and still look horrible if you aren’t eating right. 3. You are what you eat. It’s just that simple. The BASICS- 1.Postworkout Nutrition- I’m a firm believer that PWO nutrition is hands down the most important aspect of dieting. It is within the 15 minutes after a workout that your body is in dire need of nutrients. It is a completely anabolic state, and what you take in can be optimized to ensure maximum results. A general rule of thumb is 40-60 grams whey protein, and double the amount of whey in carbohydrates (50% dextrose/50% maltodextrin). 2. Carbs- You are **** right, carbs. In a strict cutting diet the majority of your carbs should come in the form of PWO nutrition, and the remainder in breakfast. Fibrous veggies are a staple, but keep in mind that they don’t count towards intake, as they have negligible impacts on blood sugar levels. (Exceptions: Carrots, Peas) All high glycemic carbs outside of PWO should be avoided. The best sources of low GI carbs can be found in oatmeal and brown rice, as well as yams. 3. Protein- You need tons. 1.5-2.0 grams per pound of lean bodyweight is a good general rule of thumb. You should take in a good portion of your protein in the source of real meals, avoid intaking too many shakes, as real food comes to a better benefit. The list foods with high protein bioavailability is extensive, and I will only cover a few, (Egg whites, Lean steak, Chicken breast, the list goes on forever….). 4. Fats- Guess what? You need fat to lose fat. We are talking about the granddaddy of fats, the EFA (Essential Fatty Acid). Good sources of fat are ( Flax Oil, Nuts, Salmon, Olive Oil). 5. The separation of Carbs and Fats- This is a hotly debated issue, but again, in my opinion, an important aspect nonetheless. Remember that it is often when you eat items and with what you eat them that is more important than what you are eating. A mouthful, I know, but stay with me. Remember that when you take in certain carbs, you can spike your insulin levels. If you are taking in fats when your insulin has been spiked, you are allowing the basic laws of physiology to act out, and you allow for a higher propensity for fat storage. Separation is key. The sample diet will give a good example of how to separate them. 6. Supplements- Glutamine: Helps prevent catabolism when cutting. Best used in dosages of 10grams daily, 5 grams before cardio, 5 grams at another interval, but not after workout as it fights for absorption with the glutamine peptides in whey. ALA/R-ALA- Gets my supplement of the day award. R-ALA is effective in lowering the spike of insulin when certain carbs are consumed. I could give you a dissertation on the stereoentisomeric properties of the R, but all you need to know is that it has been found to shuttle carbohydrates away from adipose and into myocytes. Translation: Away from fat cells, into muscle cells. It’s a supplement, however, not a miracle worker. It’s not a crutch, and won’t do anything about fat intake. ALA and R-ALA can also aid in the expedition of the ketogenic state. Remember that if you buy R-ALA that you supplement it with Biotin. Glucorell-R is prepackaged with it. If you can afford it, go for it. As far as dosage, with the R, you are looking at 1-2 pills of Glucorell R for each 30-40grams of carb intake. Protein and Carb Shakes: I’m not going to cover protein, because even if you can’t afford it, you should sell a kidney to get some. Carb drinks are rather convenient, and companies offer pre mixed dosages, (CarboHit, Glycoload, UltraFuel). Dextrose and Maltodextrin can be bought from most supplement stores or online. 7. Cheating- Cheating is essential. Why? Remember, the body runs on homeostasis, it likes to keep balance. After eating so well after a week, your body begins to adjust, and fat loss over time will not be as rapid. The other extremely important aspect is mental sanity. So many diets crash and fail because people don’t give themselves a chance to breath. Remember, cheating is not an opportunity for you to pillage the entire mall food court. Shoot for a cheat meal, not an all out binge. A fast food value meal can be 2,000 calories. Eat that 3 times on one day, and you’ve consumed 6,000 calories. And that’s not good in any case. 8. Cardio- Cardio and cutting usually go hand in hand. I won't go into specifics about length, other than cardio shouldn't be excessive. 45 minutes to one hour daily should be sufficient, and should be performed on an empty stomach. Sample Diet: Note: This is a sample diet for a 200 pound gentleman who is wishing to cut. We can assume his BF to be around 15%. This diet will NOT work for you if those criteria don’t apply to you; however it is easy to customize the below diet to take in account your own statistics. It is the principles that are applicable.. I am not going to post the total amount of calories, only the carb, protein and fat macros for the whole day. Meal 1: Lean Protein, 1/2 cup oatmeal Meal 2: Protein shake/Lean Protein (2 tbsp flax Meal 3: Veggies, Lean Protein Workout Meal 4: PWO Nutrition Meal 5: Veggies, Lean Protein, 1/2 cup rice or oatmeal. Meal 6: Shake with Flax That turns into approximately 300 grams protein, 130 grams Carbs, and 50 grams of fat. *Reminder: This is a PRIMER. It’s not mean to be comprehensive. Here comes the fun part: Question and Answer…. Q: What about dairy? A: If you don’t mind a soft look, fat free cottage cheese is an excellent caseinate source, but as for milks- way too much processed sugar. NO. Q: Should I do a keto diet? A: Unless you are morbidly obese, or would like to drag your wilted muscles behind you, stay away from keto. Again, that’s my opinion. You can see my previous posts for my anti-keto ranting. Q: What about cycling carb intake? A: Obviously on non workout days you will be without a shake, so you will be auto-cycling. It works well that way. Q: Is sodium an issue? A: Outside of the bloating issue, or if you have high cholesterol, no. Q. How do I make my meals not taste like cardboard? A. Be creative. Mix in some sugar free jam or splenda in your oats, some hot sauce or soy sauce on your meats, or pick up some sugar free ketchup. Q. I don’t like old fashioned oats. Can I eat the pre mixed oats with fruit? A. No. Be a man. Those mixes have ridiculous amounts of sugar. Q. What about fruit? A: Fruit replenishes glycogen stores in the liver, and in my opinion, is not to be a staple of a strict cutting diet, with a few exceptions. Q: Can I eat steak while cutting? A: Definitely. Make sure it’s a leaner cut. And with this post I take a sabbatical. I’d like to thank ~Swolecat~ for his influence, and to thank all of you who may have indirectly annoyed me enough to result in this elongated post. If I missed anything, or am horribly wrong on anything, feel free to PM me, and I will edit it in. Best of luck, and remember… “Obsessed is a the word that lazy people use for dedicated.” Happy Holidays, Rambo * This was edited to reflect a few changes, and change the title to UN official, as was my original intent |
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thanks for makin it a sticky B... was hopin for that to happen. and thanks for the great info rambo. i been on it for a while
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Wasn't there some DNP involved in that transformation too (if my memory serves me right) ![]()
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yes there was, but the majority of the results came after i finished DNP and began clen and the diet here |
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i dont deny i used alot of fat burners, but without this info my results would not have been nearly as good, heres a pic showing my dnp transformation from the first pic u see in my post above to the end of the dnp cycle
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Nah I believe you bro, I just looked back through your journal on AR and I can definitely tell a huge difference from the end of your DNP cycle to these pics. Diet goes a long way doesn't it
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thanks :) ive been posting this thread all over the other boards i visit cuz i fully believe in this cutting method and i wanna support IFL ![]() |
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im a firm believer that diet is the most important aspect of bbing |
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v5, did you follow this program exactly..what I mean is did you take every supplement suggested or in different doses or what? I'm interested because of your impressive results and I'm inclined to start a diet very similar to this. Any kind of respone would be helpful.
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i only took the dnp and then the clen, none of the other supps listed on this page |
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Actually this is an inaccurate statement. Keto diets are muscle sparing. When the body is in ketosis it is using fat as a primary fuel and has no reason to burn muscle. Quote:
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Plenty of more info out there on it. I got most of my info from books but I dug these links up myself.
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1.Postworkout Nutrition- I’m a firm believer that PWO nutrition is hands down the most important aspect of dieting. It is within the 15 minutes after a workout that your body is in dire need of nutrients. It is a completely anabolic state, and what you take in can be optimized to ensure maximum results. A general rule of thumb is 40-60 grams whey protein, and double the amount of whey in carbohydrates (50% dextrose/50% maltodextrin).
So half of the carb intake shouild be dex and the other half malto? Just a bit confused...sorry. |
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I'm actually putting together based on these steps right now so I want to make sure I get everything done correctly so I can post my diet tonight or tomarrow since I will start cutting as soon as I wake up in the AM.
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Yes thats correct. So for example. 50g Protein 50g Dex 50g Mal
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This sample diet, will it make me more cut to where I will get rid of my fuc#ing belly fat. Don't take me wrong i'm not a fat person. I am 19 and weigh around 185. But I would like to get more lean and get rid of that fuc#in belly I seem to never lose, although it's getting better.
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It is a good basis to create your diet around. Your results will be individual depending on your caloric needs/expenditure, cardio, training, supplementation and genetics...
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i just designed my cutting diet based on this thread... To anyone who is cutting this is a MUST read. I would say rule #5 is the one that i truly overlooked and probably the most important one IMO.
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